In Candide, Votaire makes fun of everybody and everything. Nothing is sacred. Today, we also feel free to make fun of everyone and everything. However, can satire go too far? Satire was originally used to bring about social change. Now, it is more about entertainment. Satire is supposed to make people uncomfortable sometimes, but does our modern satire (or even Candide's) cross the line? Do we not mind laughing at others but don't like people laughing at us? Or is all fair in this day and age? Please comment.
McKenzie Johnson
ReplyDeleteSatire can go too far in many cases it already goes beyond too far. Such as religious jokes and racial jokes even if they are fun in the game there is always someone who takes offense to it. Modern satire and Candide's satire crosses the line a few times. When Candide is making fun of the church and the people in the church that is crossing the line because that is a holy and religious affiliate that you are not supposed to use as a satirical piece of to make fun of it. In our modern society many times people make fun of the church as well and especially on our television sets. We usually don't mind laughing at people's jokes but when they are turned around on us then we take offense and become enraged at times. Even though our society is based on this satire we use daily nothing is always fair in this day and age and some things should remain untouched.
Veronica Wallace
ReplyDeleteI believe satire is in everything we do, and they do poke fun at everything. But i mean that's how are our world has shaped into dealing with new changes in the world. But everybody likes to laugh at something, but then when people start to laugh at them they get very uncomfortable and think, "this isnt right". But it is because everything now a days is satirized. But it should be all fair, whether its you or someone else. I mean i get made fun of everyday by keith and jamal, but do i let it effect me? No, i just go on and make fun of them too. Fair is fair, and i believe in Candide volatire does make a point of is it okay to make fun of everything we've built our society to be built up on.
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DeleteKristien Salisbury
ReplyDeleteWell to me this screamed politics and government. Satire thrives in these places. With the government criticizing other countries even though we continue to have the same issues. The candidates for any election use satire to bring down their opponent but when their opponent use it against them they go and whine. The public completely ignores what is truly going on in when these childish candidates and government are playing around. We can't really do anything about that anyway. Really what does one candidate having bacon for breakfast have to do with how he/she going to run the country. In everyday life we judge and make fun of people but when someone makes fun of us we get offensive like we are the only one in the world who deserves exemption.
Brianna parlette
ReplyDeleteI think satire can always cross the line. When calling someone or something out using satire of cource its going to make the person feel uneasy and uncomfortable. Satire goes to far when it gets into peoples personal lives and personal events.Everyone laughs when its not them but when it is them they dont laugh. Ithappens to everyone its life. Some of the satire in candide crosses the line,not to an extreme like most of todays satire but hereand there yeah.
Jamaal Roberson
ReplyDeleteSatire crosses the line all the time. Satirically talking about something and someone is like pulling their flaws and making them feel very awkward. When the public becomes aware of you personal buisness and is made to laugh at it goes far. And satire in Candide and today crosses the line WAY too many times.
Shonique Edwards
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, satire can go too far. Before, it was used to bring about social change. Now, people use it to be funny, yet ignorant. Racism used to be something that was taken seriously, and racist comments were scarce, because of the trouble that they could start. Now, everyone is racist and portrays discrimination towards races, religions, cultures, and other forms of society. Muslims and African Americans are the center of a lot of modern satire. Sometimes the satirical comments are not bad, but then they become unnecessary and they do cross the line. Now-a-days books, tv, computers, and regular people use satire for their entertainment, and cross the line, without caring.
Keith Knudsen
ReplyDeleteSatire isnt made to be HARMFUL to one, (maybe ones feelings, but thats a different story) but to bring out a flaw in their being/actions. its a comical way of bringing change into this world... much less harmful or violent than, well, violence, but nothing ever goes past the point when it is immoral to use it. if it harms someone in a such a way they inflict damage onto themselves or others, then it has gone too far. Point being, there is a line between satire and abuse. today, satire used by the media is used to invoke a humorous sense to something serious (politics, world problems, race, etc), or even just to make people laugh.
Satire can be necessary at times, but it can also be hurtful. It all depends on how the other person takes it. You can be completely joking in your satirical language or actions but it can be easily be mistaken for verbal abuse. I just think people should be careful with who and what they are making fun of, and always use satire for a good cause. These days, satire can be very hurtful. For example, Jonathan Swift's satire back in the good ol' days was for a good cause because he was trying to show the world that something needed to be done. Today, on the other hand, the media pokes fun of anything and everything celebrities do and it really messes people up and often leads to drug use...and then DEATHHHHHHHHHH asdjfajbglajbsdg;jbasdfjbg;ajsdfg
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Giovanna Sutherland
ReplyDeleteSatire does cross the line sometimes in Candide and in modern times. Candide took it to far when he talked about the black people and how they fought like tiger. Even though it's kind of true he basically called all of the savages. Or when he talked about how the Muslims continuously go around killing people and only stop 5 times a day to pray to Mohammad. Satire can go to far in modern times too. On SNL when they made fun of Sarah Palin it wasn't to shine light on her social stands but to show the world that she is really stupid. It's much easier to laugh at other people rather than having people laugh at us. To be able to laugh at others we first have to learn to laugh at ourselves.
Stephana Reid
ReplyDeleteOur satire does go to far. In Candide, Voltaire used satire to prove points up the world. Now in most cases, we use it to insult people or make them sound stupid. When using satire to make fun of people it can cause them serious emotional damage and so we have to restrict ourselves with how much satire we use.
Tori Miller
ReplyDeleteThe world's satire mostly serves absolutely no purpose but to make people laugh. There is no "deeper meaning" to things or attempts to bring awareness to bad people. It is usually the good people who are the object of scrutiny. Not all is negative, but most is. Voltaire's Candide can tend to cross the line, such as the time when Don Issachar is thrown on the poop while the Grand Inquistidor was placed in the church. Voltaire meant that to be funny but in actuality it was extremely offensive.
Onecia B
ReplyDeleteSatire is using sarcasm as a tool for change. It's not always meant to be funny. It can be serous, such as Jonathan Swift's essay 'A Modest Proposal'. Its supposed to be outlandish and make you think about the world. Satire can go overboard sometimes, but I think that's when it's most effective.
Mickale f
ReplyDeleteSatire is just a little joke sometimes it is not funny and other times it is hilarious. Satire is just another way for us to realize what happens in our world and connects us to the problems. Sometimes satire in shows like South Park I'd like wow that is too much but we remember it and see it or become aware of such subject.
Jessica Vilberg
ReplyDeleteSatire is in almost everything and on almost everything, so it is always seen as going too far. Wither you do it on religion, politics, or just things that people do,the people that do not think that is wrong is going to get mad; it is inevitable. People shouldn't get mad at the satire in candid because Voltaire made fun of everyone at the time, and didn't pick and choose who to mess with. So many people likes the jokes until their the ones being made fun of. So considering that satire is all jokes, or trying to better society, they can't really go too far, and many times, the satire is the only way people will see what is really going on.
We usually don't mind laughing at people's jokes but when they are turned around on us then we take offense and become enraged at times. People shouldn't get mad at the satire in candid because Voltaire made fun of everyone at the time. most books, tv shows, and people use satire for their entertainment crossing the line of joking, without caring about others. -Brandon Bernard
ReplyDeleteIn this day in age, people don't mind taking jokes as much, especially speaking for me and my friends. Other people might get extremely defensive, because your not friends with them. Making fun of people might be fun, especially back in the day. But when it gets turned on them, it's not all fun in games anymore, and said person get's extremely defensive and offended. Satire can go too far because it targets everything and anything that is scandalous.
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